Even more proof, SSJ3 Goku fighting Buuccolo told him he's not planning to beat him in that form(or something very similar). SSJ3 Goku was way stronger than Fat Buu. As far as goku looking for a fusing partner is concerned, Goku knew he had to utilize a lot of energy in his ssj3 state to defeat buu. Gohan was the strongest unfused character in the whole series. im a big fan of dragonball, dbz, and dbgt and personally i would have to say that between ssj3 goku and mystic gohan it would end in a draw. Goku said that he wouldn't be able to defeat Majin Buu (Super Buu). I go by the FUNimation Dub. your the only one who can fight him. gohan unlocked his full potentiel so it was probably only ssj2.5 he never beat the ssj2 level, theres no such thing as ssj2.5 nor is ssj2 a set power level. SSJ3 Gotenks < SSJ3 Goku. It's a release of all of Gohan's power. Also, about the debate above, Gohan is a LOT stronger/faster than Goku, but seriously lacks fighting instincts. The only facts are that, in anime, Goku is stronger as it was shown in "Wrath of the Dragon" the exact same punch that knocked out Ultimate Gohan, SSJ3 Goku took it like it was nothing. He even said Gohan can handle Piccolo Buu. gohan > super buu > Gotenks > Kid buu > Goku > vegeta >. gohan doesnt suck and he did train. So I guess I would say Mystic Gohan. So, in other words, in a fight between Mystic Gohan and Goku, Mystic Gohan stomps. Thaddeuspawlett78. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. you missed him saying "like this" meaning goku and vegeta were too SMALL to do anything. He was able to fight Super Buu Gotenks Absorbed for a short time. DBZ UT - Dragon Ball Multiverse - Cell's victory | La victoria de Célula by Homerloco. Default loss. So this already says SSJ1 Gotenks >= SSJ3 Goku. like gohan vs cell. Definitely vegeta was comparing him with the one he fought just a while ago, Buu+piccolo+gohan+goten+trunks. he is. Gohan would toy with Goku SSJ3 until he is exhausted and returns to base form, then eliminate him.Ucell 07:08, January 13, 2012 (UTC), But apparently it's still up in the air. The Hirudegarn movie is non-canon. In the other world, ss3 is strongest because his energy consumption is a lot less rapid. Agreed. I don't see how Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan and be in anyway weaker then him. So, for that reason, who would win in this fight? Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Goku has been training since he defeated kid buu so he has improved his ssj3 a lot. I just wanted to go out of my way to welcome you to our sub, because I first came here in a very similar manor. It is obvious that Kid buu is weaker than Super Buu because Goku could na.ot even handle Fat Buu. And we already established this, GT base Goku (or maybe just SSj) = Z Goku SSj3. He also got punked in Dbz against Super Buu. Zenoftw"I may be just a pothole in the road to you big guy, but it's going to be one hell of a deep pothole." Gotenks was equal with super buu that it was far stronger than super buu.And ofcorse Gohan that was stronger than Gotenks is obvious that was also stronger than Super Buu. Are you completely out of your mind? So no, super buu is not stronger than kid buu. Kid Buu then pushed it back until SSJ Goku's power plus the spirit bomb's power(including the bulk of everyone's power) was enough. He also said he watched everything while he was in the other world so he knew of Gohan's strength yet he still said ONLY Goku can fight Kid. Ultimate Gohan is stronger than that movie's Goku. piccolo thought blowing up the door was better than letting gotenks fight more. there is no need to divide up other people's posts and insert your 2 cents. 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